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Alexander Welborn
Alexander Welborn

A 5 higga gerts wow still holding up lol??

Vor 4 Tage
RoomerJ
RoomerJ

I mean, all the effort for a waste of a cpu. It's too much

Vor 5 Tage
intra morph
intra morph

Jay maybe for this particular build you should've gone with a 8700k for lower core count and lower temps...

Vor 7 Tage
thephattestlewt
thephattestlewt

Hey dude. I love your channel and the builds you make. Did the cooling issues exist on the non watercooled PC you made with this same case?

Vor 8 Tage
Paul Sim
Paul Sim

So how did it go? still using it? its over a year ago now. Cheers.

Vor 12 Tage
Mihaly Freeman
Mihaly Freeman

Did you think about placing the fan ON TOP of the radiator in a pull config?

Vor 13 Tage
Andrew Alcorn
Andrew Alcorn

one of my fav videos

Vor 17 Tage
COCONUTHEAD
COCONUTHEAD

That, is so sexy

Vor 19 Tage
Mantis 04
Mantis 04

I know why your cooling got that much better! You water-cooled the PSU!

Vor 20 Tage
tw1st3d
tw1st3d

Simply the best YouTuber!!!

Vor 20 Tage
Darren Munsell
Darren Munsell

What's with these CPU's not being Flat? (WTF Moments)

Vor 23 Tage
RJ Reid
RJ Reid

Great troubleshooting Jay! Now you're my hero.

Vor 26 Tage
Seamus Gameus
Seamus Gameus

looking at all the stuff jammed in this case gives me anxiety especially when he lifted the radiator

Vor 26 Tage
ChillinCruzin
ChillinCruzin

Super cool how much for u to build a copy pc for me 😆 I just want to game no need to edit pics or stream 😆 no work compact pc 😂

Vor 29 Tage
Andres Londono
Andres Londono

what program did you use to see the temp of your computer

Vor Monat
Rolf Berge
Rolf Berge

How do you get over 1700 on cinebench on the 8700k? My delidded one gets 1605 @5.15ghz wid Dominator 3733 ram.

Vor Monat
James Garrison
James Garrison

Need to deplate the CPU and add liquid metal to it.

Vor Monat
Data Techs, LLC
Data Techs, LLC

What's with the monster case at the end and is it getting a video?

Vor Monat
Robert Fox
Robert Fox

That's an impressive build for it's size.

Vor Monat
Dirtys CrapLab
Dirtys CrapLab

you are the only guy i know who has undercooled watercooled pcs ^^ youre doing it wrong dude^^

Vor Monat
Mike Runnells
Mike Runnells

@JayzTwoCents Buddy, just change the direction of airflow of your top radiator so that the system exhausts out of the perforated side panels of the chassis. This will allow fresh air to pass through BOTH rads and commit all 4 fans to evacuate the PSU and other components heat. Flip the upper fans, Jay, you know you want to...

Vor Monat
Andrew Johnson
Andrew Johnson

Just have to add your boxfan liquis cooler. All set!

Vor Monat
Zippy J.R.
Zippy J.R.

Just found this video and I was wondering if you could put in some of those ultra high speed fans blowing upwards?

Vor Monat
Logic Makes Sense
Logic Makes Sense

First I want to say that Jay, I LOVE your channel and watch it all the time. Now, I'm not saying you have skin tags, but IF YOU DID (or even just know someone who does) it's easy and nearly painless to get rid of them with common dental floss. Just make a small loop and slide it over the tag and then just pull hard. Hold pressure for between 1 and 5 minutes and the tag will simply fall off. It works because as it slowly cuts the tiny bit of skin at the base it also heals blood flow so that when it finally pops off there is virtually zero blood at all. The tag drops off in one easy piece as a tiny little skin ball that can be thrown at people we don't like...or even just peacefully thrown away. Whatever works, right!?

Vor Monat
Gary Scott
Gary Scott

So what coolant did you end up using? Did you stick with the primochill?

Vor Monat
Khabaal87
Khabaal87

Using the radiator as the intake would change temps dramatically, this thing needs to be build flipped around the way u did it! ;D

Vor Monat
cardboardpig
cardboardpig

Thank you for this video, this is the exact problem I have (not quite as bad though). I've never had a soldered TIM CPU before so I didn't know that the IHS could be warped by the soldering process. It was driving me up the wall - no matter how I applied paste the temperatures were always terrible under load and I had a very similar TIM footprint on the IHS after removing the coolers (I bought a second thinking that the first was not good enough). Not sure if I should lap the IHS or exchange the CPU though.

Vor Monat
Meng C
Meng C

That is his travel rig? Does he take that on planes? What do you tell TSA since you can't bring more than 3 ounces of liquid?

Vor Monat
User Name
User Name

Hey, I know you likely wont see this, but for those out there who may want or need to lap the cpu/block pick up a lapping plate. You can get both of them stupid flat if you use the right compound. You can also give both a mirror finish.

Vor Monat
Luke Hotchkiss
Luke Hotchkiss

Might be a better idea to have both rads blow air out since there is an open grid in the middle. The open grid in the middle section is messing with flow from top to bottom, so use it as a cold-air intake.

Vor 2 Monate
Janglenutter
Janglenutter

This build probably should have been a mid range quad or hexa core CPU.

Vor 2 Monate
r4ndom reviews
r4ndom reviews

I don't remember lapping was important back in the days, when did it really started ? I'm not talking about lapping or using other techniques for extra performance but just for normal contact ?

Vor 2 Monate
RaQ RAxon
RaQ RAxon

I rly like this video but I would like to see benchmarks this build compared to any Ryzen 7 with GPU like 1060-1080. This couse I want to build my own SFF PC based od Ryzen and Ghost S1 Case and I wonder does Wattercolling is worth it in this build. PS. You look like don't want to work on this case. I wonder why :)

Vor 2 Monate
Nik
Nik

given the component density on that thing it must way a shocking amount. The small size makes this a very impressive build.

Vor 2 Monate
Pro Newb
Pro Newb

Dang you went all the way from mac mini thermals to a respectable temperature range!

Vor 2 Monate
Rishant J
Rishant J

📂 Youtube └📁Comments └📁Originality └⚠️ This folder is empty

Vor 2 Monate
Kaleb Israel
Kaleb Israel

1155... xDDDDDDDDDD

Vor 2 Monate
TheCaptainsquiggle
TheCaptainsquiggle

I love this build, I have new found love for small form factor builds

Vor 2 Monate
محمد المولاني
محمد المولاني

شرف التجربة يكفي

Vor 2 Monate
Nick Don
Nick Don

Great you made a super computer oven

Vor 2 Monate
Kieran Martin
Kieran Martin

Why does cinebench say it is using Windows 8?

Vor 2 Monate
mcgman 80
mcgman 80

@JayzTwoCents , what voltage did you wind up at ? looks like you had to go a bit higher than I did to be stable. im at 1.26 @ 5GHZ with level 6 for LLC. (does jay even read these messages ? He always asks to leave comments below)

Vor 2 Monate
Christopher Spears
Christopher Spears

Did you change the orientation of the fans for the radiators as well?

Vor 2 Monate
Eric Wood
Eric Wood

The way this system performs, you should design systems for Apple! All of their Macs are small and overheat by design, and they still sell them at a premium price.

Vor 2 Monate
jarrod1937
jarrod1937

After seeing your results with IHS lapping, I lapped my 9900k IHS last night... the results? An 8 degree Celsius drop! I kept the ambient temp, water temp, paste application...etc all the same (and measured the temps just in case). I ran a non-AVX Prime95 small FFT torture test for 20 minutes for each run. I already had my system overclocked to 5.1GHz on all cores at 1.3VCore under load, the package temps went from 88 degrees before lapping to 80 degrees after lapping. The extra thermal overhead allowed me to up the voltage a bit more and get a stable 5.15GHz overclock (hey, I'll take it). I was even able to run AVX Prime95 small FFT without thermal throttling, though just barely. Oddly there are two cores that stay unusually cool compared to the others (6-8 degree difference from the other cores), and these stayed the same before and after lapping. My guess is the solder TIM must be uneven in some way over the die, as all cores are getting the same voltage, the same load, and are at the same speed. However, considering how quick the lapping was to do, I'd certainly recommend others to try.

Vor 2 Monate
Karthig1987
Karthig1987

Well done jay

Vor 2 Monate
Cory Welter
Cory Welter

2019s hottest trend - external power supplies with custom io cabling

Vor 2 Monate
D-One
D-One

Did you just do the temp testing with both sides of the case and top open !? 🤔

Vor 2 Monate
Tylted
Tylted

Why didn't you liquid metal it? Would've helped a lot

Vor 2 Monate
TheDutyPaid
TheDutyPaid

Looks like Walmart makes a better PC

Vor 2 Monate
ProtoformX
ProtoformX

Over a hundred people who disliked cannot withstand the awesomeness of that small form factor rig :P

Vor 2 Monate
Jesse Houwing
Jesse Houwing

A few days before he saws open a water cooler and now this... It must be revenge on the death of a family member ;).

Vor 2 Monate
banescar
banescar

Fuck Intel so much...

Vor 2 Monate
depth386
depth386

Man what a huge difference! Nice work on the problem solving, this is the real reason any serious person comes to your channel

Vor 2 Monate
Jeff S
Jeff S

Jay I need some help building my 11yr old son his first computer our budget is $1,200-$1,500. He has been asking for the last 2yrs and don’t want to mess it up buying items I don’t need I’m disabled so I can only afford to do this once and want to build him a PC that will last. I really need your expertise on this I have watched 80% of your videos but still don’t know where to start thank you for your time. Jeff

Vor 2 Monate
Konstantin Ivanov
Konstantin Ivanov

J just rotate the fan's :) you'll get Fresh air from above, use PSU for exhaust

Vor 2 Monate
10/10 memes
10/10 memes

Pls tell me you cleaned the coolant you dropped in the psu

Vor 2 Monate
Simpson
Simpson

i'm curious what had the bigger impact, the lapping or more thermal paste.

Vor 2 Monate
Albert Stewart
Albert Stewart

Now imagine if you delid it, lap the die, and liquid metal it........ One can imagine 🤷🏾‍♂️

Vor 2 Monate
Robert Frisch
Robert Frisch

Maybe you should have run a 2700x. Intel's knee jerk reactions to Ryzen are just sad.

Vor 2 Monate
Self Aware Devices / Bilinçli Cihazlar
Self Aware Devices / Bilinçli Cihazlar

use thermal camera next time

Vor 2 Monate
Stalker 90
Stalker 90

Fucking nvidia paid shill slut without honor...so discusting and pathetic you are jay. go fuck yourself stupid moron! 🤢🤮😡😡😡😡

Vor 2 Monate
jarrod1937
jarrod1937

If this is a legitimate comment, I don't get the over the top anger... try to relax.

Vor 2 Monate
Eric Shen
Eric Shen

Anyone else think that air cooling would work just fine in this case? The CPU cooler would aid in airflow and you could point it in any direction you wanted.

Vor 2 Monate
Robert Spaulding
Robert Spaulding

If you watch the video at x0.75 speed he sounds like he has camera shyness lol

Vor 2 Monate
Tyger
Tyger

built well, broke quick. bahahahaha!

Vor 2 Monate
Dmitry Klokov
Dmitry Klokov

Push/Pull config, blowing into the case?

Vor 2 Monate
Unlimited Gamer
Unlimited Gamer

I went from 8700k to 9900k and my temps are lower with the same 240mm AIO. 4.7GHz all core 1.20v benchmarks go up to 65c and ganes usually stay below 60c. It's not the cpu issue. Something is wrong with the block or something else is causing extreme heat buildup near the block.

Vor 2 Monate
Itay Weinreb
Itay Weinreb

Heat doesn't raises... hot air raises because it is less dense than colder air....

Vor 2 Monate
Djentleman 2228
Djentleman 2228

"Heat doesn't raises" "hot air raises" wat

Vor 2 Monate
Robert Pendell
Robert Pendell

What voltage did your 5Ghz All core get to? I tried to do 5Ghz on my board. First I did the built in Auto... mistake as it hit 1.488 vCore (not comfortable) and was very much likely throttling as when I ran Cinebench I saw it jump around between 4.3Ghz and 5Ghz a ton. A second run of 5Ghz vCore got it to get stable 5Ghz but I had some cores getting near or at 100C which I didn't like at all and vCore was still at 1.44. In the end I settled at 4.7Ghz vCore because it tested on Cinebench the same (yes it did) and it was a good 20C cooler.

Vor 2 Monate
jarrod1937
jarrod1937

+Robert Pendell, I'm going to spread the news though. After watching this video I decided to try lapping my 9900k. Took about 15 minutes and resulted in a 10% temp drop. If you're throttling, and are comfortable with it, I'd recommend giving that a try, will increase your thermal overhead.

Vor 2 Monate
jarrod1937
jarrod1937

+Robert Pendell, ah good. I still test with AVX, but without a lot of work, that will throttle the 9900k pretty easily. And in that case, I'd not even recommend Cinebench for temps though. If you're looking for worst case, Prime95 small FFT runs a lot hotter, about 20 Celsius for me.

Vor 2 Monate
Robert Pendell
Robert Pendell

+jarrod1937 Yea. I was mostly watching temps and looking for throttling. I wasn't using Cinebench as a stability factor but as a tool to put load on it. Same with Prime95 and I did disable AVX.

Vor 2 Monate
jarrod1937
jarrod1937

Additionally, others may disagree (everyone has their favorite), I wouldn't use Cinebench for stability testing. I found I can be really unstable and Cinebench will happily complete. I'd recommend Prime95, the older version without AVX, or newer version with AVX disabled. For the newest version of Prime95, run it once, and a local.txt file will be created in the applications directory, then add this line to it: CpuSupportsAVX=0 I don't think it's required, but then close and reopen Prime95. I then do small FFT as the test, despite what it says I found small FFT to produce the largest power draw as well as heat. If you can run stable for an hour I'd say your system is good. I personally like to run it for 12+ hours to make sure, but that's not required. It'll tell you if one of the worker threads error'ed out (assuming you don't outright freeze), but the easiest way to tell is that your core utilization will decrease if a worker thread errors out.

Vor 2 Monate
jarrod1937
jarrod1937

Unless you just got unlucky, your voltage is way too high for 5GHz. Keep in mind, in overclocking you want the lowest voltage that gives you stability, and as you learned, stability but thermal throttling is counterproductive. I think you went about it backwards, start at stock speeds and voltages, then up the speed/clock until you get unstable, then up the voltage, then go higher with the clock until instability, then up the voltage...etc. Eventually you'll reach a point where one of three things may happen. The first is your cooling is limiting you (or the thermal interface is limiting, aka, Intel). The second is the voltage exceeds what you feel is safe. The third, you reach the maximum your CPU will go, regardless of voltage. At that point I'd back off the clock/voltage slightly, and say you've found your max overclock. I'd highly recommend not using automatic tools, they still seem to set really high voltages at times. If you start low, I think you might be able to find a better overclock before you throttle... but obviously there is luck involved with your setup and the processor itself.

Vor 2 Monate
Sean Bradshaw
Sean Bradshaw

I learned in my nCase M1 with a bottom mounted rad, that I couldn't pump air up through the chassis, when I swapped the fan direction it decreased system temps by 10c. So now all the cool air comes in at the top and back and leaved through the bottom, and that's with 2 slimline fans doing the pumping out. What Jay needs to have is inlets on either side, and air OUT both top and bottom for a negative pressure chassis. Also I won't use a colored fluid again, it looks neat, but just distilled water and an additive. That way it stays clean and it's more visible when it does have issues.

Vor 2 Monate
Janko Kinčeš
Janko Kinčeš

Please contact intel for flating cpu and set it to 5ghz on all cores with 1.2 volts

Vor 2 Monate
discostoo
discostoo

You could throw that CPU at the bottom of the fucking sea and it'd still be too hot.

Vor 2 Monate
Daniel Ogg
Daniel Ogg

cast aluminum - 35 cents per pound. stainless steel - 30 cents per pound. loque ghost s1 - made of aluminum alloy and steel (not stainless mind you) weight - 5.5lbs. Costs $250.00 ExCuSe mE WhAt ThE FuCk?

Vor 2 Monate
MrAcuta73
MrAcuta73

Welcome to ITX....I built my own case. Air cooled, but...yeah.

Vor 2 Monate
xerox3333
xerox3333

In next weeks episode Jay runs another high end intel cpu on the belt sander

Vor 2 Monate
itsLyso
itsLyso

In case you get the chance, I would love to see a Titan RTX or Quadro RTX 6000 review.

Vor 2 Monate
Oliver The III
Oliver The III

Not surprised

Vor 2 Monate
Cory Gilbert
Cory Gilbert

An hour of assembly in 1.5 seconds, love it! Editing on point!

Vor 2 Monate
corza bourne
corza bourne

I dont know if this is related but, I have an asus formula viii mobo with the 6700k. I have have the same problem, throttling under light load with a closed loop CPU cooler ( h115i rgb ) under "optimized defaults". As soon as I enable the mobos built in overclock profile, temps dont get over 70c. That's an overclock of over 15% so I'm lost.

Vor 2 Monate
Richard H
Richard H

after rebuilding this so many time jay has gone completely loopy

Vor 2 Monate
Sp4rK xD
Sp4rK xD

Make a supreme pc build

Vor 2 Monate
Pica Delphon
Pica Delphon

Now the Case you rolled out in the End of this video with is about half my System size..

Vor 2 Monate
Andreas Solman Andersson
Andreas Solman Andersson

From now on I will always spin my cpu on the table before building with it, thanks Jay!

Vor 2 Monate
Matt B
Matt B

Primochill True is garbage and should never be used. I used it as the first fluid in my custom loop and it gummed up all the small channels just like it did for Jay. Also it stained EVERYTHING and took a good full day to clean everything by hand even after using a mayhems cleaning kit in it. Lesson learned the hard way.

Vor 2 Monate
Tiavor Kuroma
Tiavor Kuroma

how about just once not using any fancy fluid? just destilled water and anti-corrosion (e.g. innovatec)

Vor 2 Monate
blueckaym
blueckaym

These video series on the SFF build are super cool! ;) I'm serious - I'm doing my custom 10~11L SFF case build with the 9900K (and my old gtx1080 for now) and it's great to see some potential problems and solutions for such build. I wonder what's you opinion on alternative solution for the lack of reservoir in the loop. My idea is to use QDC (Quick-Disconnect-Coupling like EK's for example) right before the pump inlet (like in the middle of the tube). So when (re)filling it I'll disconnect it and hook it (via 2nd QDC) to external Reservoir (one that has longer tubes so that I can move it up or down - depending on if I'm filling or emptying the loop). When I have the loop filled (and air free) I'll disconnect the QDCs to the reservoir and connect the original QDC in the main loop to each other (so that the tube before the pump inlet will normally have a QDC in the middle - as part of the tube). So normal loop in operation mode (w/o reservoir) would look like: ...==[Rad]===[QDC]===[Pump]===... and when the external reservoir is hooked: ...==[Rad]===[QDC]===[Reservoir]===[QDC]===[Pump] The reservoir will have a drain port, so I can put it lower than the rest of the loop and just open it (using the pump to push out water won't work if the drain port is before the pump obviously. But another QDC-tube after the pump can help with that ... not sure if it's really necesary) Thanks Jay!

Vor 2 Monate
Brent Oslund
Brent Oslund

Retrofit tempered glass to the existing side panel. So, the existing side panel will act as a small frame to attach the tempered glass. So you can actually see the damn PC. Then I would cut 1/8-1/4 slits (3-5) at the top of the tempered glass, from one side to the other horizontally. Helping vent some hot air out of the PC. Also, could do the same thing without the tempered glass. Just cut (3-5) slits at the top of the existing side panel.

Vor 2 Monate
Brent Oslund
Brent Oslund

I’m an idiot. You ran the damn tests without a panel on. 🤦‍♂️

Vor 2 Monate
Chadid
Chadid

I wonder how do you put your thermal paste .. how a little round point can fill a square area ? ...

Vor 2 Monate
Geoff Elliott
Geoff Elliott

The layer of thermal paste should be as thin as possible, only filling the microvoids between the IHS and block. Thermal conductivity will always be best between straight metal to metal contact, but those voids cause an insulating effect because air is a horrible conductor. So that little round dot can spread pretty far once the block is mounted as long as there aren't any major gaps.

Vor 2 Monate
Tim Lamein
Tim Lamein

Jeez this makes my 6700k at 4.6 a lowend cpu.

Vor 2 Monate
7patterj
7patterj

Camera work and set design are awesome

Vor 2 Monate
Alex Pana
Alex Pana

why not delid the cpu?

Vor 2 Monate
David Mayers
David Mayers

Next video do a special on why to lap your CPU and block including best method.

Vor 2 Monate
Jack Super Fly
Jack Super Fly

That lapping montage! lol Ladies...

Vor 2 Monate
Franz Ferdinand
Franz Ferdinand

I don’t get it. You ran all the tests with the sides and top of the case off, so obviously the thermals will be flattered, or is that how you’re going to use it permanently?!?

Vor 2 Monate
Zach Sciortino
Zach Sciortino

Problem videos are my favorite. Reminds me you guys make mistakes too.

Vor 2 Monate
Stephen Drummond
Stephen Drummond

Hi Jay. i am thinking about building a new system with 2 1070s, ryzen 5 2600, 16 gigs of 3200 memory, 1tb ssd, 750 psu, 4tb hdd. would you think this would be a bottle neck?

Vor 2 Monate
Land Hooman
Land Hooman

Just download the watercooling

Vor 2 Monate
Carlos Guijón
Carlos Guijón

You can cook noodles while googling

Vor 2 Monate
Peter Anthony Bryce Markakis
Peter Anthony Bryce Markakis

Jay can you build one of these for me ? How much would the cost be ?

Vor 2 Monate
Klaus Christiansen
Klaus Christiansen

Size matters. That was what she said.

Vor 2 Monate

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